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    tonight we saw what no cat lover would ever want to witness. two coyotes caught and killed my little stray buddy whos been haning around for the past 3-4 weeks. i heard what was a cat fight or so i thought. it sound bad more like death screams and only one cat. i couldn't open the door in case my cats ran out but a few minutes later i looked out the window and the two beasts were taring him apart 10 feet away from the window. my BF rushed out and scared them away.. it was to late but we at least wanted to get him bak and give him a buriel somwhere nice. by the time we found a box they had come back adn he was gone

    RIP to the sweetest cat you could ever meet i named him flopsy and the ironic thing is i had been planning on taking him to the shelter this weekend so he could be safe and have a chance at a good home since he was beautiful and so so so sweet. last night in the middle of the ngiht he was laying in the street and i knew it was only a matter of time before someone got him

    its 5;30 am but i wont'l be sleeping anytime soon how do you forget something like this, and move on
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    Awe that is a bummer. Poor kitty.
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    • #3
      i hope kitty didn;t suffer too much but im afriad it did the screams lasted around 1 minute and sounded horrendous. i wish i could erase everything that happened or that it would stop replaying in my mind

      hope they don't catch any more they're still roaming here and driving the crows mad. my bf wants to shoot them but it's not fair i dont think. im pissed at them but its not the coyotes fault
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      • #4
        RIP, little Flopsy!!
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        • #5
          I have always hated Coyotes for this reason. I understand its the "circle of life" but it doesn't mean I have to like it. When I lived in Oklahoma I heard numerous stories like this about cats and dogs, that's why every chance we got when we saw one near our house we put a few rounds from a shotgun into them.

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          • #6
            How awful, sorry you had to experience this. At least Flopsy is at peace and surrounded by all our loved pets who have gone over the Rainbow Bridge. RIP Flopsy
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            • #7
              I know (somewhat how you feel). The same thing happened to my family dog a few years ago. We lived out in the country where coyotes were everywhere but they never came up to the house until one night. They took the sweetest dog Ive ever met. It was terrible. But I couldnt imagine seeing it happen.

              Im sorry you had to witness it terrible coyotes...terrible.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by AaronM757 View Post
                I have always hated Coyotes for this reason. I understand its the "circle of life" but it doesn't mean I have to like it. When I lived in Oklahoma I heard numerous stories like this about cats and dogs, that's why every chance we got when we saw one near our house we put a few rounds from a shotgun into them.
                That is horrible and disgusting The coyotes were probably there long before you were. There are other ways of dealing with them that don't involve killing them...such as keeping animals inside.


                space.kace, Sorry about the stray kitty, that sounds like a really horrible way to go and a horrible thing to witness.
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                • #9
                  Oh how horrible! We have mountain lions, so I try to get everyone inside when it starts getting dark.

                  But I wouldn't want to shoot every mountain lion. They were here first. They are animals too. But I would not want them killing and eating any animal I'd grown attached to.
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                  • #10
                    That's so sad...

                    We're starting to see them around my house now, and I'm worried about our pets. We d
                    Just definitely don't let them outside at night by themselves. But I don't blame the coyotes, around here the reason they've started coming into neighborhoods is because people are destroying the areas where their natural prey lives.
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                    • #11
                      This is likely gonna be a tl;dr post

                      Originally posted by AaronM757 View Post
                      I have always hated Coyotes for this reason. I understand its the "circle of life" but it doesn't mean I have to like it. When I lived in Oklahoma I heard numerous stories like this about cats and dogs, that's why every chance we got when we saw one near our house we put a few rounds from a shotgun into them.
                      There is some evidence that if you don't kill them all the survivors will actually start to have more pups. Ironically you might have been adding to your troubles. Adding to that opportunistic predator control is useless. If you remove one another will come in. Dedicated predator control (we're talking everyday for possibly a few years) over a huge area is the only way to cut down on numbers truly. So basically that was useless at best and counterproductive at worst.

                      Honestly if you weren't having problems you don't need to kill them. They really don't change habits that often so if a pair is leaving you and yours alone they will likely continue. Knock them off and the ones that come in might be.....nasty. The alternate is also true though. If you kill the one causing you problems they are likely to leave you alone. Trouble is killing that one.

                      Interestingly the argument that "they were here first" doesn't necessarily hold water either. They are the only major predator species whose range is expanding. They are now found in many areas that even 20 years ago they would not have been. Also as they have expanded they have gotten larger on average possibly due to cross breeding with wolves (red in the southeast and grey up north) and domestic dogs. They are also consistently entering suburban/urban areas (even downtown in many cities) 'cause hey, easy food. Trash cans, rats, various litter, dog/cat food left outside, unwary pets, etc.

                      By the way there is a coyote danger scale. The OP is now at 2ish on a 6 point scale if I remember right. 0-1 is no danger, 6 is someone gets bitten. The next step up is pets taken off porches, followed by coyotes spotted in the daytime, followed by coyotes attacking pets in the daytime, followed by human attacks. Not saying the scale is good or its an accurate progression but it is interesting. If someone wants I can track it down.

                      I do like coyotes though. Very cool critters.

                      I don't like feral cats though. They are one of the few animals that consistently kill for the fun of it besides...well us and killer whales that I can think of right now. And they as a group kack a few million of my song birds every year. Don't that just tick me off. SPAY/NEUTER AND KEEP THAT THING INSIDE.

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                      • #12
                        i do feel bad for the coyotes around here. they dnt want to be here as much as we dont want them here. i live in the middle of a very large city and at least once a week i see them running around mid-day looking so scared and lost. people have to take responsibilty and not let their animals out alone where these preds roam freely looking for their next cat or small dog meal yet they still do!!! everyone i know lets their cats outside and on my street there's been 6 cats killed in the few years ive lived here. before i knew about the problem it happened to me also. my neighbour found my Balinese cat Rocky's tail in his yard. so i've been there with my own cat and it sucks but we can't blame the coyotes. they dont know their eating someones much loved pet. a neighbour here had their cat taken mid day when it was sleeping on the porch. some kid chased it and eventually it dropped the cat but it didn't survive

                        im still messed up from witnessing it. the blood curdling screams and seeing them tear her apart keeps me from sleeping and is always on my mind. i still cry when i think of how scared she much have been

                        turns out she did have a home 12 units down. we assumed she was a stray when we would see her at all hours of the day and night. on Sunday i put on a brave face and went to the owners and let them know what happened. they were happy i told them so they didn't go looking for her but didn;t seem upset at all. i dont think she had a good home there and why she would always be down at my place waiting for me. they are the type of people who keep their two 100lb mutts locked in a tiny muddy dog run 24/7 where they constantly bark they kept saying " i knew it, i knew that would happen." all i could think is why didn't you keep her in the house then you idiots. she could still be alive
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                        • #13
                          i'm sorry, i hope you can find peace soon *hugs*
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                          • #14
                            I am so sorry for your loss. But, he's in a good place. I believe animals go to heaven (and I am still under 13 so i have quite an imagination) and your little baby is on a kid's lap right now. Sorry that he had to die a painful death, but he's in a good place.

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                            • #15
                              So sorry for the loss, and that you had to witness it. I know they must have been terrible.

                              I do, however, agree that it is not the coyotes fault. They have to eat too, and other animals just happen to be their meal of choice. It's sad, but that's how nature is. The owner is at fault here. They knew the dangers, yet still allowed the cat outside.

                              Also, feral cats are a HUGE problem. You know how the news is all about the invasive species causing issues? Yeah...well, feral cats cause even more. First off, cats are domesticated. They will go feral outside, yes, but they do need help from people to survive. I've NEVER seen healthy feral cats that weren't being tended to by people (feral cat colonies some times have someone that watches after them, TNRs them, and feeds them). They kill whatever they can catch, thus causing issues to the indigenous animals. Disease spread, as well, is an issue.

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