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    I just bought a 29 gallon glass tank. Needing to get it set up quickly. Hoping for a warm front so that the cresteds can be shipped soon. Previously had two collards so new to the arboreal setup. Desert is so much more simple to deal with.


    I was told by Gecko Stop to try these forums since kingsnake and repticzone wern't being very helpful in answering my questions. Thank you Gecko Stop, I went through all 41 pages of posts reading previous questions. Now after the hours of reading, I know longer remember much of what I was coming here to ask about. Bad memory.

    I know there are some posts on here about using plants. Does anyone have a website or a sticky thread on here about them? Break it down to the name of the plant, description, and a decent picture for each? I think it would be a good idea for people asking about plants, like I will be soon. I've saved what I saw in previous threads to go back and read later, but one well wrote page would be much more effiecent. Information like root depth could be helpful. I would like real plants but don't want that much soil in the cage and don't want big pots sitting there.

    For growing said plants, do you keep them in the sunlight or use grow bulbs? If you use UV bulbs do you notice any differnce in your geckos? I know they are nocturnal and said not to need it, but someone told me to put a uv light on them to bring out their color/ spots more. I know that's what we do for beardies but does uv have anything to do with color on nocturnal species?

    On an older thread (http://www.pangeareptile.com/forums/...t=cheap+timers) infernal_star was talking about using cheap $3 timers. Are these timers that automatically shut off or just like egg timers to remind her? I've seen auto timers no less than $20 so wondering.

    Is there any one website that tends to have better prices over all or that is much prefered to buy from?

    Clarks food, how much should a single crested go through in a week, in a month? Trying to figure out how much to order. How many crickets should a juvie be fed a week?

    I'm sure I'll come up with plenty of more questions but I've been up for much to long to continue thinking.
    Thank You all for input

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    Welcome to the board. There are some very talented people here that will help you out. Most post in the daytime though.
    Visit us at www.thegeckostop.com
    Thanks
    Jason & Jennifer

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    • #3
      Quick welcome here as well! This is an extremely friendly and chatty forum. I'd definitely say it's the best one I've come across, thanks to our mods! It's 4am here, so I'll try to come back to this one with some more info a bit later...I was just taking a quick peek before heading to bed. :-D
      ~ Dorothy ~

      4.7 Crested Gecko ~ 2.0.1 Chahoua ~ 0.1 Gargoyle
      1.2 Leopard Gecko ~ 1.0 Bearded Dragon ~ 1.1 Pictus
      1.0 Anole ~ 1.0 Box Turtle ~ 1.0 Tree Frog

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      • #4
        Welcome, Hope we can help you out
        Derek Dunlop
        DDReptiles
        www.DDReptiles.net
        Croc's Rule- Steve Irwin

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        • #5
          I'm not normally up that late either, but my sister had two girls spending the night at they were being way to loud. I'm so tired but I have to go get stuff for the setup before work. How much clarks should I go through a week with two juvies? Want to make sure I have the food when they get here. Thank You

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          • #6
            Hello 789! Welcome!

            If you're looking for information on plants or naturalistic setups in general... try this thread:
            http://www.pangeareptile.com/forums/...ead.php?t=2268

            A forum member (heartwork) posted a link to some "reptile" safe plants, and there's other good general discussion in the thread as well. (Link to safe plant list is http://www.geocities.com/chameleoncr...nts.html?20058)
            I know for certain that both ficus and pothos are pretty good as far as root depth... you don't need a ton of substrate in the bottom to make them happy. (Least I haven't killed one.... yet! Lol.) :razz:

            On the tanks with plants, I have UVB bulbs. All of my Rhacs are in "sterile", non-naturalistic environments, but my darts, satanics, pygmy chameleons, etc., all have planted enclosures. I do not use any type of special lighting in my Rhac enclosures, but if you have live plants you're going to need some.

            Your question about the websites with better prices... it really depends on what you're looking for (geckos, supplies, etc). Sure, you can find cheap cresteds on Kingsnake.com for $30... but they're not going to be anything special. Private breeders charge more for their animals, but you have the benefit of getting some gorgeous animals that were raised in loving homes and were spoiled rotten. The breeders can tell you everything about the gecko. Date it was hatched, who the parents are (good for if you're thinking about starting a new project), how much it weighs, etc.

            If you're asking about the price of supplies, it really depends on what you're looking for.

            The Clark's Diet is some great stuff. If you just have a single crestie, I recommend getting a 4-8 oz trial bag of Clark's. I've never had a crestie, leachie, chahoua, sarasinorum, OR auriculatus turn it down. I feed my geckos everyday (which is more than most people. Most people feed once every other), and they receive an alternating diet of Clark's one day, crickets the next, with sporadic treats of "Super Mixture". "Super Mixture" receipe can be found on my website. Everyone is doing great on this diet and growing like weeds. Crickets are dusted with Rep-Cal and Herptivite 2x a week. (Though I don't mix the two supplements together if placed in a liquid diet... the cresties refuse to eat it if I do.)

            Hope this helps! Once again, welcome!
            ~Sarah~
            www.CrestedLady.com

            "This is your life, are you who you want to be?" -Switchfoot

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            • #7
              Originally posted by 789
              For growing said plants, do you keep them in the sunlight or use grow bulbs? If you use UV bulbs do you notice any differnce in your geckos? I know they are nocturnal and said not to need it, but someone told me to put a uv light on them to bring out their color/ spots more. I know that's what we do for beardies but does uv have anything to do with color on nocturnal species?

              On an older thread infernal_star was talking about using cheap $3 timers. Are these timers that automatically shut off or just like egg timers to remind her? I've seen auto timers no less than $20 so wondering.

              Is there any one website that tends to have better prices over all or that is much prefered to buy from?

              Clarks food, how much should a single crested go through in a week, in a month? Trying to figure out how much to order. How many crickets should a juvie be fed a week?
              Hi and Welcome to the boards

              far as plants go.... most folks here use silk(ease of cleaning, care, etc).... I have yet to hear of anyone saying not to use any particular plant species.... My first recommendation would be any of the Pothos family, since they are very hardy plants and grow quickly & provide lots of cover/hiding. Any of the plants typically used in Vivarium type setups willl work too.


              far as UV goes.... the jury is still out on long term effects/needs of UV on cresteds...most folks running "live Vivariums" are using "grow lights"... Cresteds are nocturnal and typically hide during the day... so uv exposure is pretty limited anyhow... with proper diet/supplements cresteds have been raised for years with no UV... I personally have exoterra reptiglo 5.0 on my cages, but i dont think ill be replacing my bulbs again in 6months... im not convinced the extra cost is worth it.

              as for timers... the cheapest ive ever found them is around $10.... walmart, meijers, home depot, lowes, local hardware stores.

              Better priced websites.... well, its hard to truely put a price on an animal that you really want. As for Prefered websites.... each person has thier own... I would recommend any of the long term regular members we have here for quality animals/supplies.

              Clarks & crix.... For the clarks I would mix up about 1/4 - 1/2 of a small baby food jar per week(disposing of leftovers at end of week). crested diet in wild is 50-75% fruit 25-50% insect. I personally use clarks for 2 days then crix on the 3rd day. I feed 3-5 crix(dusted & gutloaded) the size of distance between the eyes, on crix day and for clarks dish out volume close to the size of the geckos head(lol....meaning i just dump some in a dish :P ). Left over clarks is also great for gutloading Crix too

              Hope that helps
              ~Eric Roberts~

              If you ask a question you don't want an answer to, Expect an answer you don't want to hear.

              '98 Jetta TDI 5spd, 233k miles, 42 MPG lifetime AVG(lost milage spreadsheet with HD failure last year )
              '00 Jetta TDI 5spd, 152k miles, 46 MPG lifetime AVG 2000TDIlogbook.xls

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              • #8
                Originally posted by ericdrob67
                Hi and Welcome to the boards

                as for timers... the cheapest ive ever found them is around $10.... walmart, meijers, home depot, lowes, local hardware stores.

                Better priced websites.... well, its hard to truely put a price on an animal that you really want. As for Prefered websites.... each person has thier own... I would recommend any of the long term regular members we have here for quality animals/supplies.

                Clarks & crix.... For the clarks I would mix up about 1/4 - 1/2 of a small baby food jar per week(disposing of leftovers at end of week). crested diet in wild is 50-75% fruit 25-50% insect. I personally use clarks for 2 days then crix on the 3rd day. I feed 3-5 crix(dusted & gutloaded) the size of distance between the eyes, on crix day and for clarks dish out volume close to the size of the geckos head(lol....meaning i just dump some in a dish :P ). Left over clarks is also great for gutloading Crix too

                Hope that helps
                What kind of timers are these and what section would I find them in?
                I've been looking for a digital temperature gauge but havn't found any worth it at home depot. Should I go with a dual probe, or dual location guage or is a single enough? I wish I bought the double from big apple back when they were on sale.

                For the website I meant for stuff, not the actual reptile. To buy hides and vines and what not from and originally the T-Rex diet, but now I think I'll be getting clarks. I was wondering how much of the clarks I should order for a month supply for two juvies. Not sure how much I should get and how long the powder remains good.

                Thank You for your help

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                • #9
                  Think you crestedlady. I had meant for supplies. I don't want to pay lots in shipping charges from all these differnt companies just because they have a sale on one item. I'm going with fake plants for now but I don't think it will be full enough. I'll start adding some real ones soon for more cover and more natural. I prefer the natural look. I really don't want soil all over my cage but I don't want the pots sticking up. I might be stuck till I make my own cage and have a hollow cabnet in the bottom and sink the bots below the cage floor or do a false bottom type thing. I'll read the posts before asking more questions in that line.

                  For the clarks, how long should the 8 ounces last a single juvie? I'm planning on getting two and want to order for a month supply. I'm putting my faith into what I've read about them taking to this stuff. How long is the powder form good for? I'd order a big bag if it didn't go bad before I could use it.

                  I plan on getting two from a guy on the FaunaClassifieds. I sent you a private message.

                  Thanks
                  Last edited by 789; 02-21-2006, 11:51 AM.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by 789
                    What kind of timers are these and what section would I find them in?
                    I've been looking for a digital temperature gauge but havn't found any worth it at home depot. Should I go with a dual probe, or dual location guage or is a single enough? I wish I bought the double from big apple back when they were on sale.

                    For the website I meant for stuff, not the actual reptile. To buy hides and vines and what not from and originally the T-Rex diet, but now I think I'll be getting clarks. I was wondering how much of the clarks I should order for a month supply for two juvies. Not sure how much I should get and how long the powder remains good.

                    Thank You for your help
                    timers can be found in lighting/electrical sections of most stores.

                    for ordering stuff you might be further ahead going to local store to avoid S&H from a website.... unless you find someone that ships for free.

                    8oz for single juvie whould last a very long time... i would guess at least few months
                    ~Eric Roberts~

                    If you ask a question you don't want an answer to, Expect an answer you don't want to hear.

                    '98 Jetta TDI 5spd, 233k miles, 42 MPG lifetime AVG(lost milage spreadsheet with HD failure last year )
                    '00 Jetta TDI 5spd, 152k miles, 46 MPG lifetime AVG 2000TDIlogbook.xls

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                    • #11
                      I hate the Petsmart with a passion. Personal grievances with them for one. I'll go up there. Big Apple herp has 5% off for $50 order or more. I doubt anyone has free shipping. Is this thing worth it (http://www.bigappleherp.com/bigapple...ducts/178105)?
                      Or would I be better off with the dual temp guage they have and just getting a simple analog for humidity?
                      I wish it was dual temp/humidity for two parts of the cage. I'm going shopping for vines and such.

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                      • #12
                        I got my light timers at Home Depot near electrical or light bulbs, I think. They are cheap; about 4-7 dollars depending on whether you buy 2-prong or 3-prong. I run all my reptile lighting off these timers. Welcome to the forums!
                        "Nothing worth having comes without some kind of fight;
                        You gotta kick at the darkness 'till it bleeds daylight....."
                        --Bare Naked Ladies

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                        • #13
                          Thanks. I checked at walmart and they only had single outlet, two pronged, single switch for nearly $10. Figured I'd buy the strip with the day night side, I thought I'd seen them for $20 somewhere. I bought a thermometer/hydrometer combo there for $6 and some change. Put it where I'm going to have my setup to get an idea of temperature variance.

                          Over the 6 hours so far the max has been 73 degrees with 44% humidity.
                          Minimum has been 69 degrees with 39% humidity.

                          With a 29 gallon tank what size bulb should I use for day, and what should I use for night. If I don't need heat at night (shouldn't right?) what is best for night viewing? I know of the T-rex moon light, I won't buy from them again, and I know exoterra has some moon ones and some red ones. I also saw the "black light" bulbs.

                          Anyone with a "moonglow" or light colored crested put them under one of the floresent black lights that are used for floresent paints? I'd seen a thing on Animal Planet where they showed differnt animals under a black light for some reason, and the leopard gecko looked really cool, but the blue and gold parrot didn't.

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                          • #14
                            I left the Temp gauge in place for 24 hours. Apparently it jumped up to 77 degrees with 44% humidity during the night. Minimum was 69 degrees with 39% humidity. I'm going to shut the vent and see how the temps do but that will shut down the circulation so I may have to get a small fan to keep air moving.

                            Is anyone in Georgia and going to the Orlando reptile show?

                            Has anyone gone to the Dixie reptile show in Alabama? Is it worth it?
                            Last edited by 789; 02-22-2006, 03:36 PM.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by 789
                              I left the Temp gauge in place for 24 hours. Apparently it jumped up to 77 degrees with 44% humidity during the night. Minimum was 69 degrees with 39% humidity. I'm going to shut the vent and see how the temps do but that will shut down the circulation so I may have to get a small fan to keep air moving.

                              Is anyone in Georgia and going to the Orlando reptile show?

                              Has anyone gone to the Dixie reptile show in Alabama? Is it worth it?
                              Originally posted by 789
                              If I don't need heat at night (shouldn't right?) what is best for night viewing
                              those temps are fine(shouldnt need any supplemental heating)... with misting daily humidity wont be a prob either

                              red or blue light are best for nighttime viewing...
                              ~Eric Roberts~

                              If you ask a question you don't want an answer to, Expect an answer you don't want to hear.

                              '98 Jetta TDI 5spd, 233k miles, 42 MPG lifetime AVG(lost milage spreadsheet with HD failure last year )
                              '00 Jetta TDI 5spd, 152k miles, 46 MPG lifetime AVG 2000TDIlogbook.xls

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