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    I just got a crested gecko, and I am considering getting another reptile/amphibian. (They will be housed separately, of course.)

    I live in a rural area, so I would only be able to buy live food when I go out of town, which is about once a week or so. I can't stand crickets or roaches, and will not be able to get used to them. I don't mind worms, like mealworms.

    I think I would like to get a frog next (if I can get one that eats mainly mealworms), and then another reptile.

    Is there a reptile/amphibian that can have mealworms as it's main food source? Or am I out of luck?
    ~Melissa

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    leopard geckos can have a main diet of mealworms. I normally start my hatchlings on mealworms and upgrade them to superworms around 4 months old or 20 grams.

    Also being that you live in Canada roaches are illegal to keep, you can still get them in Canada though.
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    • #3
      Definitely a Leopard Gecko or even an African Fat Tailed Gecko, the AFT's can be a bit picky though, so make sure you get one that was raised on mealworms.
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      • #4
        Originally posted by sammer021486 View Post
        leopard geckos can have a main diet of mealworms. I normally start my hatchlings on mealworms and upgrade them to superworms around 4 months old or 20 grams.

        Also being that you live in Canada roaches are illegal to keep, you can still get them in Canada though.

        Thanks! I really like leopard geckos. It would be great if I could get one.

        I didn't realize that it was illegal to keep roaches in Canada! :| Not that I ever would but it's good to know.
        ~Melissa

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        • #5
          I will be completly honest ... the saying is, if its a worm, its about as good as a stick of butter.. Short of Phoenix worms, most mealworms/wax worms are not as healthy as crickets/roaches/phoenix worms. I was told specifically by my herp vet to get my leo on crickets or possibly face FLD (fatty liver disease) due to higher fat content and lower over all nutritional value. I still feed mealworms from time to time mixed with wax worms (gecko crack) and he is maintaining healthy weight and size, but is mainly fed dusted and non dusted crickets.. am planning to get a small breeding colony of Dubia roaches at Hamburg show if i can find them, and see if the leo will eat them. But personally i dont not recommend a full on mealworm diet... but thats just my 2 cents, id rather my guy eat what he should, and live the healthiest he can...
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          • #6
            I have read about the reduced nutritional value of mealworms, but I do have some friends who have bought 3 geckos from me during the past 7 years and they feed exclusively mealworms. The geckos are quite healthy. One thing to think about would be to feed the mealworms, but to periodically get some alternative feeders via the mail. My recommendation would be silk worms. My leopard geckos love them. They also look and smell really nice.

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            • #7
              Thanks, guys!

              Yes, the fat content of the mealworms is my main concern.
              ~Melissa

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              • #8
                I was just thinking about this, why dont you look into a bearded dragon. Obviously the biggest thing to over come here is the size of the tank by adulthood, but its an animal that is docile, easy to care for, eats mealworms/superworms, and veggies. You should also feed crickets as a staple, but my friend feeds nearly only superworms to supplement his beardies veggie diet. They do require considerably different conditions when it comes to heat and light, but still its somehting that you could get by without using any crickets. I do agree with acpart on silk worms, which work for both leopard geckos as well as beardies, you can get someone else to feed a couple crickets from time to time, or Dubia roaches... plenty healthy. Hope this helps
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Zerocoolxx View Post
                  I was just thinking about this, why dont you look into a bearded dragon. Obviously the biggest thing to over come here is the size of the tank by adulthood, but its an animal that is docile, easy to care for, eats mealworms/superworms, and veggies. You should also feed crickets as a staple, but my friend feeds nearly only superworms to supplement his beardies veggie diet. They do require considerably different conditions when it comes to heat and light, but still its somehting that you could get by without using any crickets. I do agree with acpart on silk worms, which work for both leopard geckos as well as beardies, you can get someone else to feed a couple crickets from time to time, or Dubia roaches... plenty healthy. Hope this helps

                  I do like bearded dragons. People have said that they have a dog-like personality, which is pretty neat.
                  ~Melissa

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                  • #10
                    Let's see, a very large reptile that you can walk on a leash, down right cuddle with, carry around and it'll just sit on your shoulder, deff puppy like I don't have the space for em otherwise that would be my current investment
                    --Jeff--
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                    • #11
                      Jeff, you are really making me want a beardie!!
                      ~Melissa

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                      • #12
                        .. well its the easiest for food concerns, you just have to be sure you can handle their size... cage size requirments... feeding them crickets/roaches from time to time and supplement normal feedings with mealworms/superworms/silk worms more often then non. Veggi prices are obviously crazy, and these guys are piggies... and then comes the electricity cost for the heating (80 degree warm spot, 100-110 hot spot), with supplement UTH. Just for thought
                        --Jeff--
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                        • #13
                          Yep, that's the only thing that's really holding me back - the size of their enclosure, and the fact that they need so much more food than smaller reptiles.
                          ~Melissa

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                          • #14
                            It was always my understanding that superworms had less protein and more fat than mealworms, along with less moisture. I don't see why that makes them more appropriate than mealworms? (Source) I think either is a fine feeder, even a staple. However, both crickets and roaches have more protein and less fat, making them a preferred staple if such a thing is a concern, as some species are more prone to fatty liver and other issues. Also higher heat might rule them out as a staple for cooler climate animals like cresties.
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                            • #15
                              Beardies should not be raised on mealworms, the protein is too low for them but worse yet their intestinal track the way it is laid out easily gets impacted when fed a stead diet of mealworms or super worms due to their high % of chiton.

                              Although I am a firm believe in there are better feeders out there then to stick with only one type which is known not to be all that great to begin with, are you against brednig dubia roaches? And roaches I believe are even less high in fat, higher protein and calcium then crickets. All around as far as a staple goes you cant beat roaches unless you go with soft bodied worms like silkies which would cost you a fortune to raise.

                              Like I said I personally do not like the idea of a mealworm only based diet however you can not disclaim those breeders who have been working with leos for years and grown them up generation upon generation on mealworms. I do believe some species like leos can do OK on a diet of just mealworms but they do need to be properly enriched with vits and calcium to insure a proper diet. But like I said I do not have just a single food source for all of my animals except my uroplatus and thats only because all I can get them to eat is crickets, they will no take to roaches, and that is common with them.

                              If youre going to do a beardie you will need to either invest in getting crickets shipped straight to you, or start a roach breeding colony, a growing beardie will eat you out of house and home (to which BTW UTH's are not needed for beardies, just heat and UVB). An adult does not require quite as much. But the bonus to the dubias is that they can be small enough to feed to your cresteds, or any other insect eating species you wish to get in the future. Another bonus to roaches is that if your colony gets too big they are pretty easy to sell off.
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