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JMGeckos
08-13-2009, 07:36 PM
The Humane Society of the United States (HSUS) is the Enemy of the Reptile Nation! They prey on the uneducated. They use their money to gain favor in Washington, DC. They pluck at the heartstrings of the animal loving American public. Their message is misleading. They count on their name creating confusion and implying that they have something to do with local Humane Societies. They do not take care of puppies and kittens. They have nothing to do with your local Humane Society. They are the most powerful Animal Rights (AR) group on the planet. Their agenda is to end ALL animal ownership and use. They oppose hunting, fishing, livestock farming, bio-medical research and pets... including traditional pets. They raise money by targeting students and senior citizens with photographs of abused animals and implying that the money they raise goes to the care of these animals. HSUS DOES NOT TAKE CARE OF ANIMALS! 90% of the funds they raise go toward salaries, administration and lobbying for the AR agenda of ending ALL animal ownership and use. HSUS is extremely well funded and is dedicated to destroying the Reptile Nation. They hope to use the current interest in invasive species and the Burmese Python as a tool to destroy our community. They do not operate using facts or science. They are spreading misinformation, wild exaggerations and emotionally charged rhetoric in an effort to use current legislative proposals to end the trade in reptiles. Do not let them succeed. Help USARK to expose them for what they are... AR EXTREMISTS! HSUS is the Mortal Enemy of the Reptile Nation!

JMGeckos
08-13-2009, 07:38 PM
HSUS is the Number 1 Enemy of the Reptile Nation. They are DANGEROUS EXTREMISTS that will stop at nothing to destroy us. The Following is HSUS Propaganda:


http://www.hsus.org/web-files/PDF/wildlife/fwc_hsus_pythons_081009.pdf

http://www.hsus.org/press_and_publications/press_releases/hsus_calls_for_state_and_federal_action_on_large_c onstrictors_081009.html

The HSUS Calls for Comprehensive State and Federal Action on Large Constrictor Snakes

August 10, 2009

Today, The Humane Society of the United States, the nation's largest animal protection organization, applauded the Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission for considering a prohibition on possession and sales of all reptiles of concern as pets. This regulatory action would complement pending federal legislation, also supported by The HSUS, to prohibit importation and interstate trade in certain constrictor snakes for the pet trade.

In a letter to the FWC, The HSUS highlighted the recent tragic death of a Florida toddler and proliferation of Burmese pythons in the Everglades as reasons to take swift action to stop the influx of large constrictor snakes, prevent the spread of Burmese pythons and prevent the introduction of other species. The HSUS also urged the FWC to take a proactive and comprehensive approach and not just focus on a limited number of species, so that the problem is not simply shifted to other dangerous reptiles, such as anacondas. Once they become established, removing invasive species is expensive and sometimes impossible.

"We urge the FWC to look to take broader, proactive measures this year to stop the importation into the state, breeding, sale and acquisition of all reptiles of concern, including all anacondas, before another child is injured or killed, and another invasive species becomes established in the wild," wrote Jennifer Hobgood, Florida state director for The HSUS. "If we do not address these problems now, we will have failed just as policy makers failed in not banning the trade in Burmese pythons a decade or two decades ago."

States generally regulate which animals can be possessed and sold within their borders, while the federal government oversees international and interstate trade, making both state and federal action necessary. The HSUS supports legislation introduced in the U.S. Senate (S. 373) by Sen. Bill Nelson, D-Fla., and in the U.S. House of Representatives (H.R. 2811) by Rep. Kendrick Meek, D-Fla., to prohibit importation and interstate commerce in certain constrictor snakes. In addition, The HSUS supports legislation expected to be introduced in the Florida legislature to ban the import, sales and acquisitions of all reptiles of concern.

The HSUS emphasizes that these measures must address all large constrictor snakes. If restrictions are placed only on a few species, the trade will shift to other species. This trend is already evident. The number of Burmese pythons imported into the United States dropped from about 14,000 in 2002 to 1,500 in 2006. The trade moved to captive bred animals and imports of other species. Imports of reticulated pythons increased from about 5,000 to 13,000 and anacondas increased from about 1,200 to 11,000 over this period.

Facts

* Florida lists Burmese/Indian pythons, African rock pythons, amethystine pythons, reticulated pythons, green anacondas and Nile monitor lizards as "reptiles of concern," which currently require a permit and microchip to keep as pets.
* Including all reptiles of concern is essential, and any action should include all anacondas, not just green anacondas, which are currently the only anaconda species listed as a reptile of concern. Yellow anacondas can also grow beyond 10 feet long and threaten people and wildlife.
* The U.S. House Judiciary Committee amended and approved H.R. 2811 on July 29. As introduced, the bill would have covered a range of python species. The committee amended the bill to cover only the subspecies Burmese pythons and species African rock pythons. The bill now moves to the full House for consideration.
* A hunt for Burmese pythons in Florida is unlikely to make a dent in the problem because of the snakes' remarkable reproductive capacity and ability to blend into the environment.

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NintendoVixen79
08-13-2009, 07:52 PM
Yup. I know way too many people who think the HSUS is wonderful. They send out all those papers in the mail with the cute puppies and kittens to draw people in to think they are helping animals.
Supporting them is no better than supporting PeTA.

Saucy
08-13-2009, 08:50 PM
I support the ASPCA... never HSUS. They're just as bad as PETA. And if anyone has noticed... anything PETA supports, HSUS supports, too.

Lunar Gecko
08-14-2009, 12:27 AM
From how I understand it they are the same group. HSUS is the father foundation of PETA.

Saucy
08-14-2009, 08:31 AM
I've never heard that.

wuukiee
08-19-2009, 12:11 AM
From how I understand it they are the same group. HSUS is the father foundation of PETA.

They are not legally *that* closely related, but have board members, former board members, co-founders, and staffers that seem to "bounce" between one group and another in a highly suspicious manner. Yet they go out of their way to try to hide ties and insist the groups aren't affiliated. They've kept their legal noses clan frustratingly well.

They also endorse the other's viewpoint a statistically signifigant portion of the time, uncannily so for two groups that claim to have "nothing" to do with each other.

In my opinion, and that of many others, they're two heads of the same hydra. Certainly equally as bad, immoral, and unethical, if not as legally close as some people accuse them of being.

wuukiee
08-19-2009, 12:14 AM
I support the ASPCA... never HSUS. They're just as bad as PETA. And if anyone has noticed... anything PETA supports, HSUS supports, too.

The ASPCA, and (most) local "humane societies", animal shelters, and rescues, are groups who do good work that I heartily support and endorse with my time, and money.

The HSUS and PETA are two of the biggest banes of my existence, and why I go out of my way to self-identify as an "animal welfare" advocate, instead of an "animal rights" advocate. Shockingly, I *gasp* CARE about the *welfare* of animals! Amazing, that.

Saucy
08-19-2009, 01:50 AM
Caring about animal welfare?? *gasp* What a novel idea!!!

wuukiee
08-19-2009, 02:44 PM
The HSUS, by the way, is the same group that is using Michael Vick as its new "pet project", so to speak.

He's supposidly working on an "anti-dogfighting" campaign with them. It honestly makes me sick. They're patting themselves on the back, having affiliated with him, going 'aren't we generous, we're giving him a second chance and letting him rehabilitate himself.'

In my mind, a group that really cares about the welfare of animals would never, EVER, EVER let an animal abuser be a headlining spokesperson for them. not in the name of "rehabilitation". Not EVER.

The American Humane Association, in fact, got so many complaints directed to THEM that they had to issue a statement (I'm on *their* mailing list) saying "we are NOT the HSUS, we are NOT affiliated with him, we never will be, please stop confusing us, we're not working with Vick, and don't approve of their decision to do so."

happyfetusday
09-11-2009, 12:29 PM
OK, I just want to take a moment to say that my hate for peta is an immortal inferno. Down with peta and all others like them.