Crested Gecko Monthly Photo Chart, Breeding and Selling Crested Geckos Question?

[eirinmc]

To All May Concern:

Does anybody have picture chart of when Crested Geckos are in there first Month to year. I mean First Month, Second Month and Etc all on one photo. I am interested in breeding and selling Crested Geckos. Does anyone know if you need to have Breeders and Sellers License to start Breeding and Selling Geckos within United States? I have 4 Crested Geckos, 3 Females and 1 Male.



From:

Eirin

[TIKI]

NO you do not need a liscence..... ummm well i dont have one and i breed and sell my cresties to a store.

[Andie]

To All May Concern:

Does anybody have picture chart of when Crested Geckos are in there first Month to year. I mean First Month, Second Month and Etc all on one photo. I am interested in breeding and selling Crested Geckos. Does anyone know if you need to have Breeders and Sellers License to start Breeding and Selling Geckos within United States? I have 4 Crested Geckos, 3 Females and 1 Male.



From:

Eirin

Is there or has anyone got a monthly growth or weight chart? i.d love to compare my 4 babies.

Ok, sorry just done a search and found one
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...rowthChart.gif

[Lunar Gecko]

I have seen that chart a few times. Keep in mind that this chart tends to be very off for most all my cresteds.

here is some of my notes on a crested who was hatched out in june this year. He is MUCH bigger than a 6 month old from that chart as you can see.

Hatch 6/1/07
Weight: 2g 07/20/07 ~wont eat crickets
Weight: 3g 08/01/07 +1g
Weight: 5g 08/23/07 +2g ~has been eating crickets now
Weight: 7g 09/02/07 +2g
Weight: 9g 09/17/07 +2g
Weight: 9g 09/27/07 +0g ~shedding well
Weight: 10g 10/02/07 +1g ~looking more like a tiger
Weight: 10g 10/07/07 +0g
Weight: 11g 10/16/07 +1g
Weight: 11g 10/19/07 ---
Weight: 11g 10/22/07 ---
Weight: 12g 10/26/07 +1g
Weight: 14g 11/05/07 +2g ~Just ate.
Weight: 16g 11/13/07 +2g
Weight: 16g 11/20/07 ----
Weight: 19g 11/30/07 +3g
Weight: 20g 12/15/07 +1g ~ Shedding

[marigold]

Sarah,
i am amazed at how fast your crestie grew! mine that was hatched in early june is just 8 grams. he is just starting to eat crickets, though. would that be the difference?

[geickoJR.]

Sarah,
i am amazed at how fast your crestie grew! mine that was hatched in early june is just 8 grams. he is just starting to eat crickets, though. would that be the difference?

The temps you keep your guy at may be affecting its growth rate. Repashy apparently did an unofficial test and his geckos kept at 80 grew ALOT faster than 70-75.

So maybe living in alaska has something to do with it

[Haroldo]

This topic has been hinted at in several threads lately, here's my response:

Growth rates...Oh the controversy with this subject. Here's my take:

Bloodlines (in the loose sense--genetics), temperature, diet, feeding regimen, and even intraspecific competition, all have an influence on growth rates. People have a tendency to want to compare the growth of their animal when the concept is not quite that simple. I've been breeding Rhacodactylus for a few years and keep records on all my animals. Example: I took a young (5 week old) crested to Tinley show this past year (for delivery) and showed it to some friends/breeders that had a table there. My animal was as large as one of theirs that nearly twice as old. They were quite surprised and wondered how I "grew" mine so fast. Strictly speaking, I don't! My young animals [generally speaking] experience the same feeding and temperature regimens as my adults--both factors lesser than the average breeder I'd say. As long as your animal is eating/eliminating regularly, I wouldn't be too concerned about diet additives like pinkies. Out of the last 4 years, I've used maybe 50 pinkies between 40+ Rhacodactylus. In the last 2 years, I've used none. The way I raise my animals is comparatively slow. Cresteds, gargoyles, and sarasonirums are reared such that they are ready to breed (mature) around 18 months. This may conflict with the aims/intentions of the average person, but I feel it insures the animal's long-term health as opposed to the "power-feeding" regimens I hear of regularly. I've raised ciliatus, auriculatus, sarasonirum, leachianus, and chahoua and all but one (a single male auriculatus that has picked up 10g in 2 months and will still be ready to breed by 18 months!) have matured by my expected/predicted mark. In fact, despite my feeding only 2-3 times a week, alot of my animals have reached sexual onset earlier than expected. Case in point, a leachianus (Nuu Ami) of mine dropped her first set of dud eggs at about 28 months and 90g. Her future mate, reached 70g by that time and was a full year younger! There's just so many factors that affect growth rate and I feel I have identified what works best for me. The single best thing a breeder/keeper can do for their animals is provide an ideal setup for that animal (ie: if your animal is a runt, don't house it with other animals; if your animal easily scared into not eating by you hovering over its tank, don't do it!; if your animal appears to not enjoy handling, especially during active hours, don't force it to be held; and the list goes on...) In short, pinkies AREN'T necessary (at least with the 5 species of Rhacodactylus I've worked with) and in some remote/minute cases, they MIGHT be beneficial for boosting growth. Sorry for the rant, I just hope sharing some of my experiences prove beneficial...

Point is, unless you find most of the factors mentioned above, comparable to another breeder, it makes no sense comparing growth rates. That is to say, if you aren't keeping your animals the same, why compare growth? Just my nickel...

[Andie]

Ive heard that cresties feeding on crix tend to grow faster than just being fed on CGD . Ive got to say im really in my first year of keeping cresties but i have one 5 month old crestie that is 2 grams behind his other 3 sibblings of the same age and all are feeding well on small crix and CGD and banana powder. Now are the other 3 having a growth spurt or is the smaller one just a runt. One thing i have noticed is that the smaller one is the most active.

Thx for the chart

[marigold]

well, i think it is the fact that i feed only cgd... my belief is that they grow slow but well. (here, i have an opinion, but truly, i am new at this... )

i also live in alaska, and my cresties do have a cooler cage up here especially in winter months. i have had the experience of seeing two cresties go from 25 and 30 grams to fat and happy. so i know all is well. i just get jealous. i also have decided in the last month or so to feed crickets right in the cage. that's going well, but i am stepping up the frequency.

Haroldo, i do appreciate your point of view. there are so many variables. i don't mean to compare, but i just really want my geckos to be the best that they can be. that's all.

i now have access to a great camera. I AM POSTING SOME PICTURES!!! CHECK THEM OUT IN THE PHOTOS SECTION!!!

[marigold]

Haroldo,
i just reread your post. i really think i can relate to the last point you made. the set-up is important. and be sensitive to what conditions make ones' geckos thrive. don't make them uncomfortable. i will take this info to heart! THANKS, and MERRY CHRISTMAS!