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04-27-2006, 12:20 PM
Ok, I posted a very crappy picture of this gecko before and asked if you thought it was a creamsical, I got mixed results. It has been about a month since that post and the weather is good for outdoor pictures, so, here she is again, would you say Creamsical?
I have seen some ads for creamsicals lately and I would have to say that I think she looks like a better creamsical than what a lot of people are posting.
Let me know what you think :)
04-27-2006, 12:49 PM
I would agree!! nice gecko!
04-27-2006, 01:00 PM
It depends on everyones definition of creamsicle. I honestly think yours does not have enough cream on it's back to be considered a true creamsicle, but then again I've seen cresteds with even less cream that are barely orange sell as creamsicles so it's a tough call. As far as the coloration goes, I'd say that yours is right on the money. It has a nice orangey color, with a bit of nice cream patterning.
So call it a Creamsicle if you like. (Which is just an Orange Cream Flame with a lot of cream.) Either way nice crested. Don't stress to much about giving her a label. She is gorgeous no matter what you call her! :)
04-27-2006, 02:12 PM
Very pretty female! I don't think I would call her a creamsicle, but I would call her a very nice yellow flame. :D She's going to produce some great-looking babies!
04-27-2006, 02:27 PM
I am getting and Orange Fire male from Garrick, so hopefully it will give her babies more orange to coloration
04-27-2006, 02:31 PM
good luck with her! You always have awesome geckos at the shows!
04-27-2006, 03:59 PM
I would call that one a Orange & Cream Chevron back with partial pinstriping. While it does posses a adiquit amount orange (yellow & Red) ( going off of it being paled out in the pic) pigment through out the body it is lacking what would be considered a true flame. A flame is a separate coloration (typically but not always lighter & brighter than the base color) that runs from the pelvis or tail base to at very least the neck but preferable to the tip of the snout. This pattern runs along the back also called the "dorsal" area and typically resembles a flickering flame but some times is nearly solid. Your crested would not by any means be a bad place to start a creamsicle project. I would pair it up with a flame of any color but preferable a orange or yellow one and see what hatches out. Or just skip that and buy a true creamsicle and breed them together. I have included some pictures for reference.
Ok here is one of my founding males "THOR" with his yellow patternless girlfriend. He is some what similar to your crested in the fact that his cream does not spread up the entire length of the dorsal area. I would personally consider him to yellow to be a classified as a classic creamsicle even if the flame area was filled out.
Here is a juvenile I hatched out that is an orange coloration and has broken cream pinstriping with a slightly lighter dorsal area, but it would not be considered a creamsicle either.
This is one of my Orange Flames
She is not a creamsicle (which is merely a subtype of orange flame) because her flame, which you can see is a full one displays too much yellow pigment to be considered "cream" which in turn excludes this orange flame from being considered a Creamsicle.
The same goes for this Orange Flame female
Ok now this female that Sarah (AKA CrestedLady) now owns starts to make the morph call a little harder as she has close to a full flame and it does appear to be cream in color it doesn't quiet reach the past the nape of the neck area. Which in my opinion would make it a creamsicle but one still needing to be refined a little to be what I consider a True example of what a high qauility creamsicle looks like.
This guy is actually pretty close except his creamy goodness starts to blend into a yellow cream color past the nape of the neck. I would consider him a creamsicle in need of refinement but one none the less. So as you can see when it comes down to it there are some cresteds that are kind of up in the air because it's really just a matter of opinion when cresteds are in that boderline morph limbo.
And here is yet another guy I hatched out that comes pretty close to being a classic creamsicle except he's a little too yellow to be called that. Which brings me to a point, that there is more than one kind of creamsicle. There are (or will be) red ones, yellow ones, pink ones, "green" ones, Brown ones, lavender ones etc. All with there own individual names. There are even Tiger creamsicles which I call tigersicles. This guy is what I like to call a "Lemon Meringue" aka a yellow creamsicle.
04-27-2006, 04:42 PM
Your Orange flames look amazing. You are so close to having a pure creamsicle. Another Generation and you shoud have some. I just purchased a couple orange offspring from AC from his creamsicle line. I'm going to pair them with an orange cream partial pin I have.
04-27-2006, 05:52 PM
I love learning about the various morphs and colors. Wish we could have a thread like this for every one. Hint, hint!
04-27-2006, 05:58 PM
I wouldn't say its a creamsicle as like others said thers not enough cream.
04-28-2006, 12:14 PM
"Your Orange flames look amazing. You are so close to having a pure creamsicle. Another Generation and you shoud have some. I just purchased a couple orange offspring from AC from his creamsicle line. I'm going to pair them with an orange cream partial pin I have."
Thanks dragon, I have worked very hard on doing just that and at the same time all of my stock at least in my "creamsicle and orange flame lines are complettlly unrelated to any major breedres stock (with one exception that has sense been outcrossed). I've done this so that my lines are seperate from everybody else, and people who want strong healthy gentically diverse crested geckos can buy from my lines and get just that.
04-28-2006, 01:15 PM
Well when you have some for sale I'll be in line.
I love working with oranges!
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